Alternate Altercations #1

So yeah I’m stealing this from AdamSandlerTheFifth, but I changed the name so it’s different. Plus he stole it too, so blame him.

Death Battle is a show that I’ve watched for, oh, many years. I’ve been a fan of it for awhile, but…I don’t think it’s much of a secret to say some of the ideas DB has done, and some of the ideas people request them to do, don’t really tickle my fancy. So, that’s what this list is gonna be about, me counting down 6 Death Battles that feature an opponent with another request that’s popular. Why 6?

I couldn’t think of any more than that.

Now, I just wanna say that I don’t really think these ideas by default are better, or worse, than the popular ones. Just ones I would be more interested in personally. I wanted to say that all of them featured at least one new character, but I got one that features two and was just too good to pass up. Sorry.

Oh, and for the part where I say who wins, I’ll be looking at both characters at their peak in stats. DB does that, so I’ll do it as well here.

With all that said…let’s begin.

1. Master Yoda vs Master Oogway (Star Wars vs Kung Fu Panda)

Yes, I know that Yoda’s opponent was already revealed as King Mickey. I still like this idea better.

OST Title: Masters of Masters

Connections:

-Both are old, green, wise martial arts masters, who were among the first and best practitioners of their craft.
-Both took in an apprentice who later turned on them (Taotie and Count Dooku)
-Both trained a new generation warrior to defeat a great evil, before passing on to the afterlife
-Both maintained such a great spiritual connection to the universe, that they were able to continue offering advice after their death.
-Both have a habit of speaking in abstract metaphors and philosophies, and are generally rather mischievous.

Why I like this match:

-They’re basically the same character.
-There’s a lot of potential for fun banter.
-Their abilities can clash really well with each other.
-It gets an unorthodox new character onto the show in Oogway, one I really like.

Why it probably won’t happen:

-Yoda already got his match lol.

Who I think wins:

On paper this seems like a massive stomp for Yoda, but depending on how you scale Prime Oogway it could be really close. Oogway has the same Hero’s Chi that Po does, possibly allowing him to scale to the universal Kung Fu Panda feats from Paws of Destiny due to Po using Hero’s chi to accomplish said feats. With that said, he would AP-stomp and stonewall Yoda with chi augmentation, but get speedblitzed. So Oogway could end the fight in one hit, but Yoda has mindhax to act as a wincon, and can also resurrect like Oogway can with his chi. But since Oogway can hurt ghosts, and his wincons are overall simpler, I lean towards him.

2. Darth Vader vs Lord Garmadon (Star Wars vs LEGO Ninjago)

Yeah, you’re gonna notice with this list that there isn’t a lot of variety in the franchises. I didn’t have a ton of matchups I really wanted.

OST Title: The Darker Lords…yeah I got nothing.

Connections:

-Both were once kind-hearted martial arts masters who trained alongside a “brother” (biological or otherwise), until they were corrupted by dark power (The Great Devourer’s Venom and Sidious’s influence)
-Both served under a greater evil to rule the world (The Overlord and Sidious)
-Both threw themselves into the depths of dark power to grow stronger.
-Both sired children that ultimately defeated them (Lloyd and Luke)
-Both sacrificed themselves to stop a great evil, redeeming themselves in the process.
-Both later had their legacy carried on by the Children of Garmadon and the First Order

Why I like this match:

-Star Wars vs Ninjago is just really funny and cursed to me in spite of how thematic it is.
-Garmadon’s hammy dialogue clashes really well with Vader’s no-nonsense attitude to make for some possible really fun exchanges.
-They could incorporate Stormtroopers and the Stone Army, along with the Death Star and the Megaweapon, to raise the stakes even higher.
-Potential for really cool sword combat.
-Introduces Ninjago to DB with arguably the best match for the series.

Why it probably won’t happen:

-Matches like Vader vs Miraak and Vader vs Obito are just as thematic, and get more people interested.

Who wins:

Probably Vader. He blitzes and one-shots since the Megaweapon doesn’t increase Garmadon’s physicality. You can also argue Vader’s exposure to dark power would allow him to control the Megaweapon without disintegrating, but I’m not sure about that.

3. Po vs Goku (Kung Fu Panda vs Dragon Ball)

God this was a bad idea

OST Title: The Dragon’s Wrath

Connections:

-Both were abandoned by their parents as a baby after their home was attacked by someone who wanted to destroy their entire race after fear of a prophecy.
-Both were found by old men in humble settings and raised without any knowledge of where they came from
-Both quickly mastered martial arts under the guidance of an old master.
-Both rely on chi techniques to engage in combat.
-Both have a dragon motif.
-Both have an ample stomach and a love of food.
-Both eventually took on a mentorship role of their own to the next generation of their species (Saiyans and pandas).

Why I like this match:

-Kung Fu Panda is really cool.
-It’s a Goku match that isn’t boring or shit or Superman 3.
-The animation potential and setpieces are endless, with stuff like Po’s dragon form, the Saiyan transformations, Po’s mind and soul hax, Goku’s hakai countering Po’s resurrection, etc.

Why it probably won’t happen:

-Po vs Iron Fist exists and is more popular.
-Goku has already appeared twice.

Who wins:

Genuinely not sure, this is the closest fight on this list I think. Depending on how you argue scaling it could go either way, and their abilities and hax act as great counters to each other. Have to think about it.

4. Goku Black vs Black Shadow (Dragon Ball vs F-Zero)

We’re not done with DB yet lol

OST Title: God in the Machine

Connections:

-Both want to rid the universe of anything imperfect and create a new universe from scratch.
-Both are evil characters who mirror the main protagonist and match them in strength

And that’s all I could think of.

Why I like this match:

-It’s arguably one of the closest Goku Black fights.
-The potential for dialogue and interactions is massive with the great ego these two have and the general malicious personalities they sport.
-Seeing Black fighting a car is absolutely hilarious to me.
-Their powers could interact in fun ways, like Black cutting his way out of the Dark Zone after Black Shadow BFRs him there.

Why this probably won’t happen:

-It’s not very thematic.
-Black vs hsalF is practically guaranteed at this point.
-It’s a bad match, I just like it.

Who I think wins:

I said this was one of Black’s closest matches, and I stand by that. Both get to Universal and MFTL, and Black Shadow has some decent hax with the Reactor Mights that could help him win. That said, Goku Black generally outstats the Black Bull fairly hard regardless.

5. Ryuga vs Frieza (Beyblade Metal Saga vs Dragon Ball)

I swear this is the last Dragon Ball match

OST Title: Emperors of Destruction

Connections:

-Both are the first of three major antagonists in their respective series (Beyblade Metal Saga and DBZ).
-Both are frequently referred to as Emperors.
-Both have a purple color scheme.
-Both were considered the strongest in their series at the time they were introduced.
-Both had a hand in the disappearance of the protagonist’s father.
-Both never trained until their first encounter with the protagonist, and after being beaten by the protagonist both trained for real for the first time to grow stronger.
-Both helped the main character defeat a larger threat later on.

Why I like this match:

-This is literally my most wanted fight.
-Beyblade is a cool franchise I desperately wanna see get on DB.
-Beyblade Metal Saga and Dragon Ball are just too thematically connected not to consider at least one matchup between them.
-Probably the most fair opponent for Frieza.
-Ryuga is memed a lot.
-Seeing Frieza fight a literal flaming dragon with his fists is such a cool fucking visual image.

Why this probably won’t happen:

-Frieza vs Megatron

Who I think wins:

Not sure. Both shitstomp all over universal characters and have massive scaling chains, but I think Frieza’s might be higher with volume scaling, and he has way better speed. That said, Ryuga haxstomps and L-Drago’s regen might be enough to help Ryuga win. I’m 50/50 on it.

6. Sol Badguy vs Shadow the Hedgehog (Guilty Gear vs Sonic the Hedgehog)

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Yeah, this was that match with two returning characters I was talking about. Credit to Agent on Discord for the idea and I’m a Bizarre One/Mythra for the TN

OST Title: Big Bang Chaos Dragon Force

Connections:

-They’re cocky, and angry anti heroes who went under science experimentation to be an ultimate life form.
-Lost a loved one of theirs to an organization.
-Both have magical powers they use in combat, and are associated with the color red.
-Both have blue or blue-themed rivals with electric motifs who fight for freedom and justice (Sonic and Ky Kiske). The rivalry started off much more negative, but has evolved into a much more balanced and respectful one.
-Both have DNA of another monstrous race (Black Arms and Gears), and hold back their power through limiters that are a type of clothing (wrist rings and headbands).
-Both also initially started as world threatening monsters, but got changed for the better by the many friends they made along their ways. There’s a lot more for Shadow vs Sol I can say too
-Started off rebelling against the government, before eventually working alongside them.

Why I like this fight:

-I saw it on Discord and it sounded so dope.
-Prolly’s Shadow’s coolest matchup (Vs Ryuko is pretty mid ngl)
-The track could be an absolute BANGER.
-Seeing Dragon Install Sol and Super Shadow fight in a clash that could potentially reach crazy levels of destruction would be so hype.
-Dialogue could be a dumb edge-fest and I would adore that.

Why it probably won’t happen:

-Ryuko vs Shadow exists.
-Don’t think they’ll bring Sol back.

Who I think wins:

Probably Sol. Depending on how you scale them both could theoretically reach the same level (Low Multiversal and Immeasurable), but Sol haxxes Shadow to death. And if you buy Multi+ GG that’s just salt in the wound.

Author: JJ Slider

I'm a somewhat shy, but also expressive individual, who likes to play video games, watch cartoons, and hang out with friends.

2 thoughts on “Alternate Altercations #1”

  1. Out of all these fights, I’d say my favorites are probably Yoda vs Oogway, Goku Black vs Black Shadow, and Sol vs Shadow. Vader vs Garmadon sounds pretty cool and thematic, but my knowledge of Ninjago is practically nonexistent. Same deal with Ryuga vs Frieza for Beyblade.

    Also, how does Guilty Gear get to Multi+?

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